When Elie arrives in camp, he states, "The night had passed completely. The morning star shone in the sky. I too had become a different person. The student of the Talmud, the child that I was, had been consumed by the flames. All that was left was a shape that resembled me. My soul had been invaded - and devoured - by a black flame." (pg. 37) What does this quote show about how Elie has been affected by his imprisonment, and how does this relate back to the Never Shall I Forget passage on pg. 34?
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When Elie arrives in camp, he states, "The night had passed completely. The morning star shone in the sky. I too had become a different person. The student of the Talmud, the child that I was, had been consumed by the flames. All that was left was a shape that resembled me. My soul had been invaded - and devoured - by a black flame." (pg. 37) What does this quote show about how Elie has been affected by his imprisonment, and how does this relate back to the Never Shall I Forget passage on pg. 34?
How do these two passages relate to one another?
Elie was affected by the camp because when he entered and saw the flame he had felt like his soul and everything he stood for was taken away from him by the flames
This shows that he had hard times and that he had to change, he needed to become a different person.
I think that night is important to Elie because the first night at the camp completely changed him in so many ways. I think he is talking about the flames from the furnaces and it completely freaked him out.It relates back to never shall I forget because he will never forget the Hollocaust and what happened to him.
Tallulah, can you add more to your comment, why do you think everything was taken away in the flames?
This quote shows that he believes that when he entered the camp, he was no longer the boy he used to be. His soul was taken away from him. He is no more than just an outline of a boy. It relates to the poem because he is saying that his life was taken away from him.
Gerardo, why do you think Elie had to change? Can you explain?
why do you think Elie had to change? Can you explain?
Elie has been affected by his imprisonment because hes explaining how he got "consumed by flames" and that his shape was the only thing that could resemble him. This relates back to the Never Shall I Forget passage on page 34 because it is explaining how its very hard for him.
i think everything was taken away from him because he says "all that was left was a shape that resembled me" this shows that he wasnt himself anymore.
It relates to the poem because it shows all the hard times he had and that the poem contains parts of the quotes.
Elie has been affected by his imprisonment because hes explaining how he got "consumed by flames" and that his shape was the only thing that could resemble him.
I agree with what you said, Tallulah
julianna, what was taken away from him?
he's saying that he wasn't the same person after what happened
Julianna, why do you think his "soul was taken away from him"
Ethan, I think you're right. Can you explain what you think changed about him?
1.I think that Elie is affected by his imprisonment by him seeing a kid being burned into the fire. He probably thinks that he might be consumed by the flames too.
2.This quote relates to the quote by paragraphs saying that he will "never forget the flames and smoke of the fire". To add on, the passage also says the he will "never forget the bodies that he saw in the fire" Which means that the flames took away his soul.
this quote shows how that child that lived in side him died little by little , every time he saw someone die every time he got hit being in there it killed part of his faith, the flames turned him in to a prisoner he was acting like one like someone that did something terrible .he feels like sadness has filled his heart with the flames that killed him slowly
Elie was affected by the imprisonment because he feels like as the night time passed at the camp his soul have been devoured by dark flames he feels at the camp .He also feels as if the person he was before when he was a kid have also been consumed by the falmes
Grace,How did the camp change him in so many different ways?
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I think that night is important to Elie because the first night at the camp completely changed him in so many ways. I think he is talking about the flames from the furnaces and it completely freaked him out
Gerardo, get a little more specific please. What exactly does he refer to in the poem that backs up his quote in the post above.
I think Elie had to change because in all the situations he was in it was hard for him he need to become stronger. To Mrs. sullivan
His desire to live was taken away from him. He didn't care what happened to him because anything was better than being in the camp.
Alec, what exactly about him was "consumed in the flames"? Can you be more specific?
Adrian and Mathews, please join the conversation.
he's saying that he wasn't the same person after what happened
David, I haven't heard from you yet.
I think his soul was taken away from him because he says, "All that was left was a shape that resembled me." There was nothing left inside him.
For example,the camp changes his views on his religion, on God. He starts to hate god because he believes that God put all the jews in the concentration camps
he was probably a nice kid and out going the when it happened he was down and not as out going
It backs it up because the poem contains many parts from the quote.
1. Elie has been changed by his imprisonment because before the Holocaust even started, Elie was a spoiled child whereas he got everything he wanted but now, in his concentration camp, he is living off of small portions of soup and bread as well as being forced to do seemingly endless runs and even got lashings on his back several times.
2. This quote relates back to the Never Shall I Forget passage because as he was a survivor out of the thousands upon thousands of children ruthlessly murdered, he was entirely changed in that he watched as his friends and family were burned alive, right before his eyes, thus making him depressed. The poem states that he saw children burning into wreaths of smoke and the book states that he himself almost went into the same pit of fire. In conclusion, this affected Elie because he almost experienced the same grueling fate as his family and friends, thus making him depressed in general
it shows that he became a different person when he arrived
The quote shows that while he and the other Jews were imprisoned that he felt like he had changed. Also he feels like he is nothing, like he is dead almost. He said he "...had been consumed by the flame." and he continued to talk about fire and his soul. I think he feels this way because he saw the places were the people burn, it is a frightening site. It relates to the Never Shall I Forget poem because he still talks about people in flames and how he/they changed.
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