Monday, October 24, 2011
Touching Spirit Bear - Edwin & Garvey's Lessons E Block
Garvey and Edwin explained that many events on the island would teach Cole something about himself. Of the various lessons that Cole learns, (through the soaking pool, ancestor rock, totem pole, animal sightings, Garvey and Edwin's metaphors, and nightly dances) which do you think were the most significant to Cole changing? Justify your response with evidence from the text. Please use proper spelling and grammar. No text speak.
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I think the ancestor rock was the most important. I think this, because it was what originally helped him release his anger. His release all started when he was pushing the rock up by himself then,that led to him releasing more anger in various ways.
Hi this is Kate
I think one of the most important events that Cole learned from,is the animal dances because for example with the wolfs when he danced that danced he learned to stay close together with people like a wolf pack. It teaches cole good life lessons through animals and there actions.
The most significant change Cole had was his nightly dances. After dancing his Whale dance he reflected and thought about the whales and how their lives are in the ocean without a real home. Cole realized he has no home, just like the whales. His dances were what he saw in the animals' behavior. He saw how animals acted, changing him on how he saw himself.
I do not believe that any one of the methods of change was more significant. They all contributed to the changing of Cole. They all helped him clear his mind, think positively, and give him the strength that he needed to change in the first place.
I agree with you Kate,Michael, and Mariah.
I believe that they are all equal in helping Cole. I believe that they all helped Cole becuase, the ancestor rock for example wouldn't make much sense without soaking in the cold pond to make him calm first. Also, becuase the dances wouldn't have happened without the animal sightings. The totem pole also wouldn't be there without the animal sightings, becuase he carved after dancing and learnig a lesson. And without Garvay and Edwin's metaphors he for example wouldn't have the soaking pool or ancestor rock!
I think the most significant occurances that changed Cole are the totem pole, animal sightings, nightly dances, and Garvey and Edwin's metaphors. The totem pole, animal sightings, and nightly dances all tie together, in my opinion. Cole seeing the animal sightings gave him new knowledge on how they act, and when Cole danced the "animal dances", he learned new things about life. Then, he carved what he learned into the totem. Garvey and Edwin's metaphors also helped Cole change. A few examples are the cake and cake ingredients, the hotdog, and the stick. The cake and cake ingredients told Cole that life can be made up of a lot of bad things, but he can choose to focus on the bad things in life (cake ingredients) or the good things (cake). The hotdog taught Cole that life is whatever he chooses it to be. It can be good, average, or bad. Just like how you prepare a hotdog. The stick symbolizes that no matter how hard you try, you can't "break off" your anger; it will always be there. Just like breaking off a stick. There will always be an end.
I dont think the ancestor rock was a big thing that Cole learned from because I think it just realeased his anger
I believe that the largest changes of Cole came from him soaking in the pond. Thesec soaks helped calm Cole as he cleared his thoughts. This helped release any of Cole's anger he had to let go of and started his days on the island positive and relaxing. It also helped his sore joints and other wounds from the spirit bear feel better and less irritated. The soaks in the pond soothed him and became on of the many things Cole proceeded in doing to change from his past. It helped him consist of an open mind and the ability to make a change within himself
Dejonet, why do you think it was so important for Cole to release his anger, in order for him to learn the lessons he needed to?
Yes Dejonet, but if you think about it, that wasn't what helped him along the waya as much as other things. That was only the start.
From all of the things that helped Cole learn, I think that the animals had the biggest effect on Cole and what he learned. I feel like one of Cole's highest changing points was after he was mauled by the Spirit Bear. He learned that not everyone and everything is afraid of him, he learned that he only impresseses himself, and he came to the conclusion that he wanted to live. The sparrows, laying dead on the floor...made Cole think about his point in his life, and if he even had one. Everytime Cole saw a different animal, he would do the dance of it; or what he learned from it. He learned from the beaver, spirit bear, sparrows, and the whale. Him and the whale have something in commin, they move from place to place, but never have a home to go back to. Cole learns a lot about life from the animals he has seen in his stay at the Island.
I think the most significant of Cole's changes were through the spirit dances. These dances taught him about these animals and their traits, which in turn taught him about himself and exactly what his life meant to others. For example, when he danced the dance of the whale, he learned that it migrated but really had no home. That is true with Cole also, because he has really never had anywhere to truly call home because of his drunk father and barbie doll of a mom. when he danced the dance of the wolf, he learned that things work better in groups, which is the opposite for Cole because he is always alone and lets no one help him or give him advice. The dance of anger is probably the most important of these dances, because it shows that he forgives Peter, his parents, and better yet, he forgives himself.
Even though a lot of things have made Cole different, and changed him.The things that I think changed him the most are soaking in the pool and the dances. When he soaks in the pool it like washes away all his anger, and frustrations. It has come to teech him patience and like he has just changed from it. The dances are also very important because every animal he see's, he learns something from it. Like when he dances around the fire he learns what the animal is about and how it acts. He has learned to love a lot more things from the animals. As it said in the book, animals can teach you a lot about yourself.
I agree with Mariah; everything contributed to Cole's changing.
what is your answer to the question ms.sullivan ?
I agree with Mia because they did all help and they were all related to each other
Kate, why do you think it was important for Cole to learn to be close to others?
I think that the lessons that had the most significant changes on Cole, were the ancestor rock and the nightly dances. I think that these lessons had the most changes on him because they alowed him to let out his emotions and calm down. The ancestor rock was definitly a big factor during his time on the island because it alowed him to let out his anger and misery. I think that the nightly dances were also a huge factor because it also alowed him to show what he was feeling but through dance. I think that these two lessons definitly created the biggest changes in Cole by far.
I agree kyle about the anger dance one!!!!!!
The most significant lesson that Cole learns I think is the second chance lesson. Where they(Garvey and Edwin) were about to send him back and he went to the pond and carried the rock. He learned that the reason why he still had all that anger was because he was still blaming others.I also think the dances were a big part of him changing because it made him look at animals differntly. he could see the lesson that the animals taught him.
Dejonet I disagree with you becuase if he didn't soak he wouldn't have been calm enough to release his anger at all.
Mia is confusing . . . .
I agree with Kate, it helped him learn about himself.
I agree with Mia !!!!!!!! and Kate.
Michael C, what do you think was the most important animal dance in terms of Cole's learning?
i think the animal sightings were the most inportant thing that heped him learn because not only did it give him time to meditate and conrol himsefl better while he was watching them, but also to learn the lesson of the animals that he is studying. i belive this is the most inportant one because as you read the book and see how cole is changing all his lessons somehow related back to an animal.
@Kate, Isn't the rock carrying important because if Cole didn't get rid of his anger he wouldn't have cared to learn through his lessons.
Even though the ansestor rock released Coles anger I dont think he learned from it that much
I believe Kyle M had a good answer and a great use of examples to bring evidence to support his answer
The anger dance was definetely a big help for him jake! He rolled away his anger. He probably felt a lot better after he pushed the rock down the hill.
The one I think is the most signifcant is the morning soaking bath. Why? Well because I think it gives him time to relax and clear his mind and think and look over the past events and what he did and what not. To think what he did wrong and maybe make better choices next time. The coldness of the water helps him release his anger and more. Because of the baths I think he changed a lot.
Ms.Sullivan I think that it is important for him to releaase his anger,because when he's mad he doesn't want to listen to anyone.Then while he is angry he doesnt learn anything.
Deborah, but what activities(totem pole carvings, soaking, ancestor rock, etc.) helped him to change while he was on the island?
Mariah you make a very good point that i totally agree with it was just the start!!
I think one of the most significant changes to cole was the dances. I think the dances were important because while he was dancing them he realized tat animals porpose on the earth. He also learned their importance and his importance of life. I also thing the soaking in the lake was very importaant because it realeased his stress and anger which is very important for cole to do. If cole keeps his anger all bottled up he willl never get better. I think the ancestor rock is a great way for coloe to release anger.
I dont think the rock is important I think he realesed more anger by soaking in the pond
Mariah, commit please. Pick something that you think was literally life changing for Cole.
My answer changed slighty. I think many things contributed to Cole's change, just like Mariah said. It wasn't just one thing. It was everything.
I agree mikey about kyles answer..... kind of!
Why do you think this Mikey? by the time he was in the pond he had already healed for the most part.
Mia, which do you think helped Cole be most reflective?
This is so cool.... i think all of the comments make a good point buut the ones about the animal sightings and dances are the most inportant.
I agree with KyleM's post about the dance of anger and how Cole shows that he forgives peter.
But Mia if he's calm how is he releasing anger. When he's calm he has no anger so technically he doesn't need to be calm to realease his anger
@Ms Sullivan, in my opinion the most important animal dance was the Spirit Bear dance because it made Cole relive the moment and his feelings of the mauling. He saw he didn't want it to happen again.
Which post do you most agree with Mrs. Sullivan
I think one of the most significant changes to cole was the dances. I think the dances were important because while he was dancing them he realized tat animals porpose on the earth. He also learned their importance and his importance of life. I also thing the soaking in the lake was very importaant because it realeased his stress and anger which is very important for cole to do. If cole keeps his anger all bottled up he willl never get better. I think the ancestor rock is a great way for coloe to release anger. (:
I think its important that he stays close to other people and has good friends so he has someone to talk to so hes not by himself
Mariah how am I confusing?
Never mind, I think they all were equally important! Because they all kind of led to eachother.
Kate, i think we know it is you your name tag is on the top of your comment :O
Thank you for agreeing Michael. Cupkate? seriously?
kate! i think both are equally good because he would have had a lot of anger jumbled up inside him if he didn't roll the rock down the hill. But the pond is also very good for him because it like calms him.
If I had to pick only one thing that was the biggest change for Cole, I would say it was three things that tied together into one, like I said before: the animal sightings, nightly dances, and totem pole. I explain why in my first post.
I disagree with you Dylan. Other things such as the soaking were more important because they cleared his mind so that he could become calm enough to learn to change.
I agree with what Dejonet said about the ancestor rock.
Kate, do you think Cole would have been ready to learn without first finding a way to manage his anger?
I agreee with Nicole he needed to finally get all his feelings out and by doing the dances this seemed to help alot
I agree with Nicole about the animals
Also, Carving the totem pole treated Cole to a calm, stress reliefing place where he could think about his problems. and rid of some of his ANGER!!!
I agree with emily.
Kate, Can you please explain which dance you think is the most importnat? (:
nicole.. i agree with parts of yours but other didnt make to much sense to me :))))
samantha M- i think those 3 answers are very true because he learned a lot about himself throughout this process
what helped change cole the most was soaking in the pond. soaking in the pond helped cole start his day in a realaxed and calm. when cole didnt start his day by soaking in the pond he would be stressed out and angry.
The ancestor rock, and the soaking pool, in my opinion, led to Cole's changing, but the most drastic change was the animal sightings, nightly dances, and totem.
I really think the anger dance was like the climax of the story it's when he comes to realization that he needs to forgive to let go of all his anger and be free of the burden it's causing him and when he did it he forgave every one and was asking for forgiveness. Now if you think Cole didn't change after that than you were not paying the book any attention.
I agree with you Jake E-B, that is definitely a significant role in the story that really helps Cole.
Actually in my opinion I trully think every single method helps him equally. I believe not a single one really has a advange over another...
I agree with everyone..
No Mrs.Sullivan i dont think he would be ready to learn to release his anger without the pond and the ansestor rock because he wouldnt have the courage to do strange dances yet
I agree with you kyle. The anger dances seem to be very helpful throughout his change because he is learning lessons from each one.
I agree with you, Dejonet.
I sertainly agree ms. nicole ;)
@ Chris, What do you think would have happened if Cole didn't soak in the pond every morning????
Brianna I agreeeee with youu
@ Mrs. Sullivan: I don,t believe any one made him more reflective. I believe that they all helped equally not even one was more helpful they were all equal!
@ Dejonet: He needed to be calm to want to let go of his anger. So therfore he needed to be calm to want to let go.
KYLE I meant to say it sort of helped release or ease some of the pain in his wounds. Cole says in the book he feels the pain in his wounds go numb
Thats true holly! aLL OF THESE EXPLANATIONS PLAY A BIG ROLE AN CHANGING COLE.
@Biranna, I agree :)
NICOLE I think the spirt bear dance/ the dance of anger because he finally learned to forgive and he got alot of his anger out
Write back saying you like if you think this was a really good book and Cole made a really drastic change since the first chapter.
Thank You Holly :P
michael i also agree with you and i belive that you clearly stated your answer, easily understandable....bbfl :)
I agree with Chris about the pond stuff. But why did it take you so long to post.
Oh ok mikey did not know you meant that thought you meant he was sore from carrying the rock but that was after. haha my bad
Jake, do you think the dances only let him release his emotions?
mikey i agree with your first post i think that soaking in the pond helped him the most
Chris I diagree because when it got to cold he couldnt soak and he just carved
Dajonet, I am commenting on whatever you just poasted. I agree that he changed A LOT since the first chapter.
Emily, you have left the same comment 4 times hahaha
DID YOU SEE THE ANSWSER TO THE QUESTION YOU ASKED ME NICOLE
from kate
Michael, if Cole didnt soak in the pond in the mornings he wouldnt have become clear-minded enough to change at all.
i agree debby!
I agree with all of you
@Jake @Chris, you 2 are VERY special...you proabrobly won't see this.
Kyle is magical for correcting himself :P
I agree mariah
I agree mariah
So dylan, read it again, it all makes sence >:/
The thing is, there is no right answer. Everyone has their opinion, and everyone is right. :)
Deborah that is so true he totally stopped soaking in the pond for the winter and he was fine for the most part the carving occupied the anger
Deborah, can you get more specific about the lessons Cole learned from the animals?
No I can read that Michael C
@Jake, what animal dance did you find the most learning-to-Cole?
Well kyle what did i say 4 times??
@ Dejonet: I do think this was a good book. I also believe that Cole did major drastic changes that we all can learn from.
Sam, I was just about to say that.
@Debbie, the carving was only his temporary replacement when the pond was too cold, but when it got warmer, he soaked and carved.
Thank ya Chris yall have mighty fine answes as well.
Emily ... (: why do you think the dances are so important ?(:
Nicole, no uses of angry faces is neccesary
@Samantha that is so true <3
I Totally agree with Sam. Everybody is right no matter what ^_^
@Samantha M no there is a right answer. MINE!!!!!!!!
i agree with kyle the totem poles did release his anger
That anonymous was Hollz. I forgot to write my name. but yeah Sam I agree ! I was about to say that
i agree with dejonet's comment about the ancestor rock.
YOUR SO RIGHT DEJONET! It was a really good book and last night i read the first and then last chapter of the book and he is a COMPLETELY different person.
Oh jake i just got your post and i will agree to disagree.... i think your theory is stupendouce but your theoretical comprehension is a little mixed up.
I forgot to write it again ITS HOLLLY.
Kyle shush, I can use angry faces if i want to. >:/ >:/
I think Touching Spirit Bear has a lot of life lessons on who you should be as a person, and how you should take on life. I like the messages of TSB. :)
well nicole, i think the dances are important because he learns what they are about and how they act. So when he dances he like picks up how they act.
we have b block next
I agree Samantha there really is no right answer :D
This is more fun than a vocal class discussion. Since I'm shy and what not o_o....
@Dylan, Which carving did Cole learn from the most?? :p <3
I agreee with kyle
The lessons that cole learned from the animals where,the wales taught him he didnt really have a home,the wolf taught him that with the help of others your stronger and the mouse taught him to survive
I agree with everybody because i think all of the lessions are important (:
@Dylan BIG WORDS CONFUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you Brianna, this is way more fun than talking. I think we should blog a lot more often. If people can actually use correct spelling and grammar...
@Deborah, i agree. all the animals did teach Cole something.
Kate is great
All of the activities cole encountered have changed him!
@ Sammeeehhh: I totally agree it does have alot of life lessons.
@Nicole no, this a good conversation, no need to get angry with people cause of their opinions. haha just kidding
Samantha, you're right that everyone has his/her own opinion, but there needs to be evidence to prove the point. Everyone isn't always right if the evidence doesn't back up the opinion.
what did you guys think of the last chapter of the book
this was really really fun...bye yall
I think everyone nis right, and every lesson for Cole was important to him changing. Hollz is out, pleace.
michael i think that if cole didnt soak in the pond than i dont think he would have changed
bye guyysa
I hope cole learnes from his lessions because he screwed up.
I LOVE TOUCHING SPIRIT BEAR
I believe Touching Spirit Bear gives us all lessons on life and is a very inspirational book.
Overall, Cole learned throughout his time on the island. Bye Bye :p
Bye!
BiBi everybody
i think that cole changed alot,because at the beginning he lived a life of crimes,rage and violence.i believe that the attack of the spirit bear saved his soul.
by:gui da silva
this book shouldn't get quickscoped because i actually liked it it should get sniped
lol
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